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		<title>By: Curious Cat Management Improvement Blog &#187; Management Improvement Carnival #38</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curious Cat Management Improvement Blog &#187; Management Improvement Carnival #38</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Anchoring a Problem Solving Culture by Mark Rosenthal - &#8220;When a problem occurs, the first response is to detect it, then to fix (or contain) it. That is jidoka. But at some point, someone has to investigate why it happened, get to the root cause, and establish a robust countermeasure.&#8221; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://theleanthinker.com/2008/06/07/anchoring-a-problem-solving-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-4755</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 05:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Muri (overburden) is just another &quot;problem.&quot;

The starting hypothesis (or &quot;plan&quot;) is &quot;This person should be able to do this.&quot;

Then try (&quot;do&quot;). 

Check: &quot;Can s/he do it?&quot;
If no, then we have learned something - the original assumption was wrong. This is good news. (This is the definition of &quot;chatter&quot; in my posts referring to Steve Spear). 

It is good news because now we know the next point of weakness in the system to work on.

Escalation is simply the act of notifying the chain-of-support that there is a &quot;problem.&quot; On a good line, it means pulling an andon cord or turning on some kind of signal.

Many times people are overwhelmed thinking about trying to respond to all of the problems. That is where some rational thought comes into play. Respond to them in the sense of making sure safety and quality are not compromised, but then manage them. Some problems never get addressed. Fact of life. They end up in the &quot;too hard&quot; box. The good news is that the organization usually knows how to live with them. It isn&#039;t about solving every problem that comes up, but rather, about systematically responding and solving as many as possible every day.

That was the beauty of the shuffling priority queue I mentioned. There was no attempt at FIFO, rather it was solving as MANY problems as possible. Sometimes the really hard ones just never got addressed, just contained.

To do this (actually solve problems), though, means carving out dedicated time to do it. Where most organizations fall down is the point where &quot;working on solving problems&quot; is only &quot;when we have time.&quot; Rather than being a prime activity, it is supposed to fit between the cracks. That doesn&#039;t work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Muri (overburden) is just another &#8220;problem.&#8221;</p>
<p>The starting hypothesis (or &#8220;plan&#8221;) is &#8220;This person should be able to do this.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then try (&#8220;do&#8221;). </p>
<p>Check: &#8220;Can s/he do it?&#8221;<br />
If no, then we have learned something &#8211; the original assumption was wrong. This is good news. (This is the definition of &#8220;chatter&#8221; in my posts referring to Steve Spear). </p>
<p>It is good news because now we know the next point of weakness in the system to work on.</p>
<p>Escalation is simply the act of notifying the chain-of-support that there is a &#8220;problem.&#8221; On a good line, it means pulling an andon cord or turning on some kind of signal.</p>
<p>Many times people are overwhelmed thinking about trying to respond to all of the problems. That is where some rational thought comes into play. Respond to them in the sense of making sure safety and quality are not compromised, but then manage them. Some problems never get addressed. Fact of life. They end up in the &#8220;too hard&#8221; box. The good news is that the organization usually knows how to live with them. It isn&#8217;t about solving every problem that comes up, but rather, about systematically responding and solving as many as possible every day.</p>
<p>That was the beauty of the shuffling priority queue I mentioned. There was no attempt at FIFO, rather it was solving as MANY problems as possible. Sometimes the really hard ones just never got addressed, just contained.</p>
<p>To do this (actually solve problems), though, means carving out dedicated time to do it. Where most organizations fall down is the point where &#8220;working on solving problems&#8221; is only &#8220;when we have time.&#8221; Rather than being a prime activity, it is supposed to fit between the cracks. That doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Fonseca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Fonseca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 03:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,

It was your definition of... &quot;Muri: “Overburden” or “Unreasonableness” - in short, asking someone to do something which he should not have to do, or which cannot be done.&quot;

So it wasn&#039;t an idea from a book I was reading, but from your page on Common Searches.  In my mind I extended &quot;Unreasonableness&quot; to the many tasks I&#039;ve been asked to do.  I am a mountain of Muri.  The marine saying... &quot;We&#039;ve done so much, with so little, for so long, THAT NOW we can do anything with nothing&quot; is such nonsense... but it was fun to say.  Thanks for the idea of escalating.  Even the word &quot;escalating&quot; had a negative connotation with me. I thought that &quot;Escalating&quot; meant going crazy.    

I&#039;m starting to be a fan of the proper application of emotion/feeling instead of just a stoic-robotic response.  Words like &quot;curiosity&quot; and &quot;determined&quot; do have some feelings attached to them. Now I&#039;m seeing that &quot;Urgency&quot; is important.  And that to &quot;Create Urgency/Sound the Alarm&quot; It may be necessary to do it by attaching the appropriate emotions, in a controlled fashion, to the cold hard facts and data.  After all, we are humans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>It was your definition of&#8230; &#8220;Muri: “Overburden” or “Unreasonableness” &#8211; in short, asking someone to do something which he should not have to do, or which cannot be done.&#8221;</p>
<p>So it wasn&#8217;t an idea from a book I was reading, but from your page on Common Searches.  In my mind I extended &#8220;Unreasonableness&#8221; to the many tasks I&#8217;ve been asked to do.  I am a mountain of Muri.  The marine saying&#8230; &#8220;We&#8217;ve done so much, with so little, for so long, THAT NOW we can do anything with nothing&#8221; is such nonsense&#8230; but it was fun to say.  Thanks for the idea of escalating.  Even the word &#8220;escalating&#8221; had a negative connotation with me. I thought that &#8220;Escalating&#8221; meant going crazy.    </p>
<p>I&#8217;m starting to be a fan of the proper application of emotion/feeling instead of just a stoic-robotic response.  Words like &#8220;curiosity&#8221; and &#8220;determined&#8221; do have some feelings attached to them. Now I&#8217;m seeing that &#8220;Urgency&#8221; is important.  And that to &#8220;Create Urgency/Sound the Alarm&#8221; It may be necessary to do it by attaching the appropriate emotions, in a controlled fashion, to the cold hard facts and data.  After all, we are humans.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://theleanthinker.com/2008/06/07/anchoring-a-problem-solving-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-4734</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve -
I was a little ambiguous on the organizational level because I didn&#039;t want to get into the negative consequences of silo and &lt;strike&gt;ambiguous&lt;/strike&gt; matrix organizational structures.

In general, however, if the level of organization that SHOULD be able to solve the problem CAN&#039;T solve the problem, then one of two things is true:
- The problem is harder than it looked. Countermeasure: Escalate. The escalation response is technical assistance from the higher level that now owns the problem.
- The people aren&#039;t capable of solving a problem they should. Countermeasure: Escalate. The response is to guide and coach the people through the process so they learn how to do it themselves next time.

Note that any time a problem can&#039;t be solved, the initial response is always the same: Escalate. This could be a literal andon call. What should never happen is that a problem goes unaddressed because &quot;we don&#039;t know what to do.&quot;

There certainly are problems which are unsolvable, in cases where we have over reached our technology, for example. But those are rare, and when they occur, they should be well documented, understood and their effects contained so the downstream customers are not affected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve -<br />
I was a little ambiguous on the organizational level because I didn&#8217;t want to get into the negative consequences of silo and <strike>ambiguous</strike> matrix organizational structures.</p>
<p>In general, however, if the level of organization that SHOULD be able to solve the problem CAN&#8217;T solve the problem, then one of two things is true:<br />
- The problem is harder than it looked. Countermeasure: Escalate. The escalation response is technical assistance from the higher level that now owns the problem.<br />
- The people aren&#8217;t capable of solving a problem they should. Countermeasure: Escalate. The response is to guide and coach the people through the process so they learn how to do it themselves next time.</p>
<p>Note that any time a problem can&#8217;t be solved, the initial response is always the same: Escalate. This could be a literal andon call. What should never happen is that a problem goes unaddressed because &#8220;we don&#8217;t know what to do.&#8221;</p>
<p>There certainly are problems which are unsolvable, in cases where we have over reached our technology, for example. But those are rare, and when they occur, they should be well documented, understood and their effects contained so the downstream customers are not affected.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://theleanthinker.com/2008/06/07/anchoring-a-problem-solving-culture/comment-page-1/#comment-4733</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim - 
It is true that most defects are the result of human error - either a &quot;slip&quot; where some step was omitted, or a &quot;mistake&quot; where the wrong thing was done.

My question is: What are the consequences of finding out that people make errors?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim &#8211;<br />
It is true that most defects are the result of human error &#8211; either a &#8220;slip&#8221; where some step was omitted, or a &#8220;mistake&#8221; where the wrong thing was done.</p>
<p>My question is: What are the consequences of finding out that people make errors?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Fonseca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Fonseca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About your point &quot;They solve the problem at the lowest level of the organization capable of solving it...&quot; are you recommending solving a problem above your skill level, by taking a two step aproach 1) Learn 2)Then solve??? I can see that this will increase knowledge/skill.

Also sometimes I read books and I&#039;m not sure if what I am thinking comes from the book or if it&#039;s a new idea...  But isn&#039;t it a type or waste to have an &quot;uncapable machine or person&quot; take on a task?  Which raises the responsibility training a high level of importance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About your point &#8220;They solve the problem at the lowest level of the organization capable of solving it&#8230;&#8221; are you recommending solving a problem above your skill level, by taking a two step aproach 1) Learn 2)Then solve??? I can see that this will increase knowledge/skill.</p>
<p>Also sometimes I read books and I&#8217;m not sure if what I am thinking comes from the book or if it&#8217;s a new idea&#8230;  But isn&#8217;t it a type or waste to have an &#8220;uncapable machine or person&#8221; take on a task?  Which raises the responsibility training a high level of importance.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Fernandez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Fernandez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark:

Yes we do have a &quot;Fire Investigator&quot;.  We do find out how the problems start and we do followup and correct the source of the problem.   

And we do have a system to identify an &quot;out of spec&quot; condition.  We use a final inspection cell.

However, my comment meant to say we don&#039;t have a &quot;culture&quot; throughout the plant nor an automatic system to detect problems and solve them.  We are far away from having jidoka anywhere but at the very end of our many manufacturing and assembly processes.

Here&#039;s an interesting part of our system.  Almost every time we find an error in our product, we add an inspection step to insure it won&#039;t happen again.  This drives me (The Lean Manager) crazy.  We are forced by our customer to come up with corrective actions.  The easiest solution is to add an inspection step in the middle of the building process.  I&#039;m more inclined to use the 5 why&#039;s and discover the true source of the error.  However, by doing that I&#039;m afraid we may find that low paid, untrained workers would usually be the true source of the error.

Thank you for your thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark:</p>
<p>Yes we do have a &#8220;Fire Investigator&#8221;.  We do find out how the problems start and we do followup and correct the source of the problem.   </p>
<p>And we do have a system to identify an &#8220;out of spec&#8221; condition.  We use a final inspection cell.</p>
<p>However, my comment meant to say we don&#8217;t have a &#8220;culture&#8221; throughout the plant nor an automatic system to detect problems and solve them.  We are far away from having jidoka anywhere but at the very end of our many manufacturing and assembly processes.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an interesting part of our system.  Almost every time we find an error in our product, we add an inspection step to insure it won&#8217;t happen again.  This drives me (The Lean Manager) crazy.  We are forced by our customer to come up with corrective actions.  The easiest solution is to add an inspection step in the middle of the building process.  I&#8217;m more inclined to use the 5 why&#8217;s and discover the true source of the error.  However, by doing that I&#8217;m afraid we may find that low paid, untrained workers would usually be the true source of the error.</p>
<p>Thank you for your thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim -
Just a question - when your &quot;fire department&quot; puts out the fire, does the &quot;fire investigator&quot; sift through and look for how the &quot;fire&quot; started in the first place? That is what fire departments do...

Continuing the analogy, a circuit breaker is a jidoka mechanism. By detecting an out-of-spec condition (too much current), it shuts down the operation before it can cause a bigger problem - a fire. In order to reset it, you have to find the cause of the short and fix it. That is an example of pushing the &quot;problem solving&quot; upstream and handling the issue while it is still small. Of course there is no way to do that manually, you can&#039;t go check every circuit every day. So we devise technology to do it for us, and let us know when there is a problem. That is jidoka.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim -<br />
Just a question &#8211; when your &#8220;fire department&#8221; puts out the fire, does the &#8220;fire investigator&#8221; sift through and look for how the &#8220;fire&#8221; started in the first place? That is what fire departments do&#8230;</p>
<p>Continuing the analogy, a circuit breaker is a jidoka mechanism. By detecting an out-of-spec condition (too much current), it shuts down the operation before it can cause a bigger problem &#8211; a fire. In order to reset it, you have to find the cause of the short and fix it. That is an example of pushing the &#8220;problem solving&#8221; upstream and handling the issue while it is still small. Of course there is no way to do that manually, you can&#8217;t go check every circuit every day. So we devise technology to do it for us, and let us know when there is a problem. That is jidoka.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Fernandez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Fernandez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good article.  My company has no problem solving system. And no problem solving culture.  

We do have a problem solving team.  But it&#039;s designed like the fire department.  Simply put, when there&#039;s a fire (big problem) we put it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good article.  My company has no problem solving system. And no problem solving culture.  </p>
<p>We do have a problem solving team.  But it&#8217;s designed like the fire department.  Simply put, when there&#8217;s a fire (big problem) we put it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabriela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, I don&#039;t think you need to worry that people do not read your &quot;stuff&quot;. I find the material on your blog very helpful and each day I learn something from you, whether here or on the lean.org forum.
I&#039;d like to contribute by drawing a parrallel to the lean implementation.In the same way, the lean tools cannot be used successfully without following the lean thinking process and this is where successful companies do a better job.
Regarding the problem solving process, I still see a lot of companies where the task belongs to the engineering department and these people get really crowded with tasks and jobs half finished.
You are right in all your statements. We have to get rid of the silo perception and of the departmental walls and start empowering our people to become problem solvers after educating them well in the thinking process and in the tools of choice. 
Cross functional teams become powerful assets of a company, where the engineer/technical specialist draws on the experience of the front line worker or of the maintenance technician, etc. Thus, the problem solving process is streamlined and the decision taking and the implementation steps are accelerated.
At the same time, we&#039;ll need to reduce the approval time, the purchasing steps, as they all lead to extensive delays and &quot;rework&quot; loops. There is still the perception that not all the problems are worth solving, based on the ROI (the subject of another topic).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, I don&#8217;t think you need to worry that people do not read your &#8220;stuff&#8221;. I find the material on your blog very helpful and each day I learn something from you, whether here or on the lean.org forum.<br />
I&#8217;d like to contribute by drawing a parrallel to the lean implementation.In the same way, the lean tools cannot be used successfully without following the lean thinking process and this is where successful companies do a better job.<br />
Regarding the problem solving process, I still see a lot of companies where the task belongs to the engineering department and these people get really crowded with tasks and jobs half finished.<br />
You are right in all your statements. We have to get rid of the silo perception and of the departmental walls and start empowering our people to become problem solvers after educating them well in the thinking process and in the tools of choice.<br />
Cross functional teams become powerful assets of a company, where the engineer/technical specialist draws on the experience of the front line worker or of the maintenance technician, etc. Thus, the problem solving process is streamlined and the decision taking and the implementation steps are accelerated.<br />
At the same time, we&#8217;ll need to reduce the approval time, the purchasing steps, as they all lead to extensive delays and &#8220;rework&#8221; loops. There is still the perception that not all the problems are worth solving, based on the ROI (the subject of another topic).</p>
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