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		<title>By: Shahrul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shahrul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 04:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article. The Gemba walk believe will be strongly related to the method called Genchi Genbutsu. Gemba means place and Genchi Genbutsu is going to Gemba to check on the genbutsu (object). Another interesting  method is Management by Walking About which is to some degree similar to Genchi Genbutsu.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article. The Gemba walk believe will be strongly related to the method called Genchi Genbutsu. Gemba means place and Genchi Genbutsu is going to Gemba to check on the genbutsu (object). Another interesting  method is Management by Walking About which is to some degree similar to Genchi Genbutsu.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Rosenthal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Rosenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 15:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you will find the approach you described very similar to what Mike Rother describes in &lt;em&gt;Toyota Kata&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you will find the approach you described very similar to what Mike Rother describes in <em>Toyota Kata</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douglas Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 14:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m investigating Gemba Walks to create a training module for leaders at my company. We have spent many years training and practicing lean concepts. The question lately is how do we become teachers and coaches? I believe the Gemba Walk is exactly how this is done and the purpose of the concept. I have read many articles on the subject and we currently perform many Sensei walk activities. I learned a concept from a company in the mid-west (AutoLiv) that mentored us through the beginning of our lean journey. called GUS Follow-up...

Grasp The situation 
Understand the problem
Set expectations
Follow-up   

Gemba Walks are all about this, the reason I do a Gemba walk is to understand what the current condition is with my own eyes so that I honor the real situation.

While I&#039;m there I have to understand the problem... But that is not good enough I have to admit to myself that there is waste and I must teach others that waste does exsist so that they can see.

Now I must set expectations and this is were it gets tricky. I have to be careful not to dictate the solution, but to try and coach the leader or employee to see the need for something to improve the situation. At the beginning this could be a visual that tracks the problem so that I know how offten this happens or what the number one issue is. In later stages it could be the formation of a team to begin the PDCA workshop or DAMIC project. (I should not try to solve the issue on the floor)

Then I must follow-up constantly. This is the hardest part in my opinion. If you are treating the Gemba Walk as a one time event you will fail and make lean a program of the month. Don&#039;t start if you are not prepared to continue. Setting expectations with out follow-up is worse than setting no expectation at all... Food for thought...

Thanks for listening.
Douglas Miller</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m investigating Gemba Walks to create a training module for leaders at my company. We have spent many years training and practicing lean concepts. The question lately is how do we become teachers and coaches? I believe the Gemba Walk is exactly how this is done and the purpose of the concept. I have read many articles on the subject and we currently perform many Sensei walk activities. I learned a concept from a company in the mid-west (AutoLiv) that mentored us through the beginning of our lean journey. called GUS Follow-up&#8230;</p>
<p>Grasp The situation<br />
Understand the problem<br />
Set expectations<br />
Follow-up   </p>
<p>Gemba Walks are all about this, the reason I do a Gemba walk is to understand what the current condition is with my own eyes so that I honor the real situation.</p>
<p>While I&#8217;m there I have to understand the problem&#8230; But that is not good enough I have to admit to myself that there is waste and I must teach others that waste does exsist so that they can see.</p>
<p>Now I must set expectations and this is were it gets tricky. I have to be careful not to dictate the solution, but to try and coach the leader or employee to see the need for something to improve the situation. At the beginning this could be a visual that tracks the problem so that I know how offten this happens or what the number one issue is. In later stages it could be the formation of a team to begin the PDCA workshop or DAMIC project. (I should not try to solve the issue on the floor)</p>
<p>Then I must follow-up constantly. This is the hardest part in my opinion. If you are treating the Gemba Walk as a one time event you will fail and make lean a program of the month. Don&#8217;t start if you are not prepared to continue. Setting expectations with out follow-up is worse than setting no expectation at all&#8230; Food for thought&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks for listening.<br />
Douglas Miller</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Rosenthal</title>
		<link>http://theleanthinker.com/2009/01/28/walking-the-gemba/comment-page-1/#comment-35447</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Rosenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2010 20:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Asotosios -
I think I would start by doing what is outlined in the post you commented upon. The last couple of paragraphs give you a good starting point, and the 18 comments that precede yours offer some additional insight.

Your question is actually two questions, and they have separate answers.
&quot;The best way to conduct a gemba walk to make the most of them&quot; is outlined in the original post - though I can go into more detail, it is best to try it first and see what you can learn by doing what is described.

The second question - &quot;...and to make people think that lean actually works and can make their life easier if they try&quot; is more problematic. You simply can&#039;t &quot;make&quot; someone think or believe anything. They have to do that for themselves. 

What you can do is to teach them to visualize what an ideal work flow would look like, then ask them to observe an actual one and describe to you what they see that is preventing the worker from doing the job the best way. IF a person is willing to learn and is teachable, you can spend time with them and teach them to do this by observing yourself, and asking them questions to direct their eyes until they can see the same things.

Ultimately, it is a BIG help if a few people can gain this experience with someone who has done this for a long time, a &quot;sensei&quot; if you will - a coach in common English. That can reduce the learning time considerably.

Like any skill, acquiring this one takes practice in an environment where the right kinds of encouragement and advice are offered. It takes some struggling and correction. It takes some drive and motivation, and those things must come from within to be truly effective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Asotosios -<br />
I think I would start by doing what is outlined in the post you commented upon. The last couple of paragraphs give you a good starting point, and the 18 comments that precede yours offer some additional insight.</p>
<p>Your question is actually two questions, and they have separate answers.<br />
&#8220;The best way to conduct a gemba walk to make the most of them&#8221; is outlined in the original post &#8211; though I can go into more detail, it is best to try it first and see what you can learn by doing what is described.</p>
<p>The second question &#8211; &#8220;&#8230;and to make people think that lean actually works and can make their life easier if they try&#8221; is more problematic. You simply can&#8217;t &#8220;make&#8221; someone think or believe anything. They have to do that for themselves. </p>
<p>What you can do is to teach them to visualize what an ideal work flow would look like, then ask them to observe an actual one and describe to you what they see that is preventing the worker from doing the job the best way. IF a person is willing to learn and is teachable, you can spend time with them and teach them to do this by observing yourself, and asking them questions to direct their eyes until they can see the same things.</p>
<p>Ultimately, it is a BIG help if a few people can gain this experience with someone who has done this for a long time, a &#8220;sensei&#8221; if you will &#8211; a coach in common English. That can reduce the learning time considerably.</p>
<p>Like any skill, acquiring this one takes practice in an environment where the right kinds of encouragement and advice are offered. It takes some struggling and correction. It takes some drive and motivation, and those things must come from within to be truly effective.</p>
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		<title>By: asotosIos</title>
		<link>http://theleanthinker.com/2009/01/28/walking-the-gemba/comment-page-1/#comment-35444</link>
		<dc:creator>asotosIos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2010 12:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
I am a lean manager at a pharmasutical industry. I would like to organise Gemba Walks in a company that there is almost next to no experiene in Lean or appriciation in Lean. Top Management pushes for Lean but to a new comer like me it looks like nothing has happened so far, except the people to dislike Lean.
 
My experience is relatively small (almost 5 years in Process/Lean management) and new at this company (almost a month). My idea of conducting Gemba walks as a 1/2 hour walk at the production and packaging shop floor, with the heads of dept and tech depts, is to try and make them think more in a Lean perspective in general as also assist me to understand better the situations. 

What I would like to know is...what is the best way to conduct the Gemba Walks in order to make the most out of them, and make people think that Lean actualy works and can make their life easier if they try. Carrently they just watch it in separation of the rest of the production something like extra work to please the managers and not as a tool to solve problems.

Many thanks in advance...
AsotosIos</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
I am a lean manager at a pharmasutical industry. I would like to organise Gemba Walks in a company that there is almost next to no experiene in Lean or appriciation in Lean. Top Management pushes for Lean but to a new comer like me it looks like nothing has happened so far, except the people to dislike Lean.</p>
<p>My experience is relatively small (almost 5 years in Process/Lean management) and new at this company (almost a month). My idea of conducting Gemba walks as a 1/2 hour walk at the production and packaging shop floor, with the heads of dept and tech depts, is to try and make them think more in a Lean perspective in general as also assist me to understand better the situations. </p>
<p>What I would like to know is&#8230;what is the best way to conduct the Gemba Walks in order to make the most out of them, and make people think that Lean actualy works and can make their life easier if they try. Carrently they just watch it in separation of the rest of the production something like extra work to please the managers and not as a tool to solve problems.</p>
<p>Many thanks in advance&#8230;<br />
AsotosIos</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Rosenthal</title>
		<link>http://theleanthinker.com/2009/01/28/walking-the-gemba/comment-page-1/#comment-35014</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Rosenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 05:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin -
That sounds like a potentially great process.
You may be doing this already - so pardon me if that is the case - but the next step would be to tighten down the structure of the problem reporting and problem solving so that the supervisors (and by extension the machine operators) are systematically driven to gain deeper and deeper understanding of the process. If you can&#039;t tell by reading my recent posts, I really like Mike Rother&#039;s coverage of this process in Toyota Kata. 

The more the organization practices the process of engaging with each other in this way, the better everyone will become at doing it + the better the operation will become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin -<br />
That sounds like a potentially great process.<br />
You may be doing this already &#8211; so pardon me if that is the case &#8211; but the next step would be to tighten down the structure of the problem reporting and problem solving so that the supervisors (and by extension the machine operators) are systematically driven to gain deeper and deeper understanding of the process. If you can&#8217;t tell by reading my recent posts, I really like Mike Rother&#8217;s coverage of this process in Toyota Kata. </p>
<p>The more the organization practices the process of engaging with each other in this way, the better everyone will become at doing it + the better the operation will become.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://theleanthinker.com/2009/01/28/walking-the-gemba/comment-page-1/#comment-35008</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 18:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,
We have a relatively large plant and have four departmental KPI boards. We start our walk at a spacific time and only allow a certain time frame for each board. During each stop, the supervisor presents to the leadership team only the areas in which they did not achieve their goals or any highlights for the last 24 hours. At this point they explain why goals were not achieved and if further resources are necessary to solve the problem. After the walk, we have a wrap-up meeting to discuss any misses and if any further resources need to be allocated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,<br />
We have a relatively large plant and have four departmental KPI boards. We start our walk at a spacific time and only allow a certain time frame for each board. During each stop, the supervisor presents to the leadership team only the areas in which they did not achieve their goals or any highlights for the last 24 hours. At this point they explain why goals were not achieved and if further resources are necessary to solve the problem. After the walk, we have a wrap-up meeting to discuss any misses and if any further resources need to be allocated.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Rosenthal</title>
		<link>http://theleanthinker.com/2009/01/28/walking-the-gemba/comment-page-1/#comment-35005</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Rosenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 16:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin -
A structured presentation in front of a KPI board may well be appropriate for a manager &quot;show and tell&quot; but in my definition, it isn&#039;t part of what I would call a &quot;gemba walk&quot; at all.

As described, a gemba walk should not require people to alter their normal work patterns. In fact having them do so defeats the whole purpose. The key point is to compare what should be happening vs. what you observe so that you can check if the processes and systems are working correctly.

Checking KPIs doesn&#039;t, in my mind, require anyone to present anything. They are there to see. 

Now - if it may be that your machine operators are engaged in improvement activities that are intended to impact the KPIs.

If that is the case, then it is entirely appropriate to have the present:
- The target condition.
- The starting condition.
- What problems and barriers are preventing the target condition.
- What they are working on.
- What results they anticipate.
- What results they achieved.
- Explain any differences, and what they learned about the process.

This would be part of the people development process, and would be an appropriate check to see how well the Team Leader is teaching it - by checking how well his students (the operators) have learned it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin -<br />
A structured presentation in front of a KPI board may well be appropriate for a manager &#8220;show and tell&#8221; but in my definition, it isn&#8217;t part of what I would call a &#8220;gemba walk&#8221; at all.</p>
<p>As described, a gemba walk should not require people to alter their normal work patterns. In fact having them do so defeats the whole purpose. The key point is to compare what should be happening vs. what you observe so that you can check if the processes and systems are working correctly.</p>
<p>Checking KPIs doesn&#8217;t, in my mind, require anyone to present anything. They are there to see. </p>
<p>Now &#8211; if it may be that your machine operators are engaged in improvement activities that are intended to impact the KPIs.</p>
<p>If that is the case, then it is entirely appropriate to have the present:<br />
- The target condition.<br />
- The starting condition.<br />
- What problems and barriers are preventing the target condition.<br />
- What they are working on.<br />
- What results they anticipate.<br />
- What results they achieved.<br />
- Explain any differences, and what they learned about the process.</p>
<p>This would be part of the people development process, and would be an appropriate check to see how well the Team Leader is teaching it &#8211; by checking how well his students (the operators) have learned it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://theleanthinker.com/2009/01/28/walking-the-gemba/comment-page-1/#comment-35004</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are your thoughts on machine operators presenting at the department KPI boards instead of the supervisor during the GW?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are your thoughts on machine operators presenting at the department KPI boards instead of the supervisor during the GW?</p>
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		<title>By: Edgar Cerda</title>
		<link>http://theleanthinker.com/2009/01/28/walking-the-gemba/comment-page-1/#comment-34800</link>
		<dc:creator>Edgar Cerda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 01:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, thanks for all information shared on this GEMBA WALK talks. Second,GEMBA WALKS works, at least in here there should be a compromise from hihg level management to take part of this process. As we know, Managers all the time are involved in their Jobs and GEMBA goes to second level, but GW must be 100 % supported by all the Managers ad will be part of the Quality System, giving Us proud of the solutions that all the team is giving to solve any single &quot;opportunity&quot; caught in the GW. In a few words,GW is very important to gave to operators (The ones that touch our material and transformed at final product) confidence in our resolutions to solve their opportunities that at the end will be part of all of US. GW means Continues Improvement in a high level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, thanks for all information shared on this GEMBA WALK talks. Second,GEMBA WALKS works, at least in here there should be a compromise from hihg level management to take part of this process. As we know, Managers all the time are involved in their Jobs and GEMBA goes to second level, but GW must be 100 % supported by all the Managers ad will be part of the Quality System, giving Us proud of the solutions that all the team is giving to solve any single &#8220;opportunity&#8221; caught in the GW. In a few words,GW is very important to gave to operators (The ones that touch our material and transformed at final product) confidence in our resolutions to solve their opportunities that at the end will be part of all of US. GW means Continues Improvement in a high level.</p>
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